ON1 Short Clip – Styling in Lightroom & Photo RAW

Photo RAW isn’t just for raw photos. It can also be used as a plug-in for both Lightroom and Photoshop. The speed is through the roof! I wanted to do a quick video on how I will style my photos using both Lightroom and ON1 Photo RAW.

36 comments on “ON1 Short Clip – Styling in Lightroom & Photo RAW”

  1. On October 13, 2016 at 4:54 pm Jeff Resener wrote:

    Looks great! Can’t wait to give it a try if hopefully it handles Fuji XT-2 and X70 raw files (RAF)

  2. On October 13, 2016 at 9:28 pm Petr Krenzelok wrote:

    Well, we already know, that on1 Photo can work as a plug-in. Cool it works much faster though :-)

    But – what would be imo REALLY intestesing, is to compare LR vs Photo Raw Develop modules – the same photo, moving sliders here or there, comparing extent of basic adjustments. Is Photo Raw ready to compete? :-)

    1. On October 17, 2016 at 5:00 pm Hans Habereder replied:

      I agree with Petr, I would also be interested in benchmarks such as:
      1 color separation of adjacent colors ( eg, green and blue-green etc)
      2 hard disk memory requirements for large D810 files from On 1 10.5 to On 1 Raw That would be very convincing. To me speed is not everything but it is important also important is how large the process rifles in oOn 1 Raw get after applying the app.

      1. On October 23, 2016 at 10:18 am Hans Habereder replied:

        Speed is also relative. Benchmarks would be useful because speed will depend on what graphics card and computer you have. For instance how fast will an 2011 imac with standard graphics card run. That would be very useful to the community because not everyone has the latest and fastest graphics card. Let me give you an example. Aurora HDR 2017 is advertised as blazing fast. However, when i use The luminosity mask feature it takes 8 MINUTES to render. Its a joke. Its totallz unusable. IF you were to give these kind of benchmakrs plus the ones I suggest above, it would really serve you very well and create informed and happz customers

      1. On October 18, 2016 at 7:51 am Charles McGrew replied:

        Why bother with a new RAW editor if you’re going to use LR anyway?

    2. On October 28, 2016 at 6:44 am elliotpaulstern@gmail.com replied:

      Petr I feel like you do. I would really like to know how it compares as a stand alone to lightroom cc. If I am going to use a raw processor then it is going to be one raw processor. This bouncing around from one to another as opposed to being a one stop shop makes no sense.

      If On1 wants to be a competitor then I really think it is more important that they stress why I would leave Lightroom for On 1 raw. I personally do not intend to use more than one program for all my future processing. On1 even now is a great stand alone program with a lot of functionality and the raw looks like it will be that one stop shop for post processing but they have to stop pushing the Adobe love and start to treat them as their competition.

      El

  3. On October 14, 2016 at 3:24 am jean jannon wrote:

    yes, that comparison would be interesting. I almost stopped doing basic adjustments in Photo10, as IMHO LR offers better quality (especially on highlights recover etc) and more comfort (I always miss these option/ctrl-preview shortcuts). Would be nice if Photo Raw could catch up …

    1. On October 14, 2016 at 7:30 am Petr Krenzelok replied:

      Do you mean using Alt key to see the clipping of hilights/shadows, when moving sliders? Actually, that’s available even in Photo 10.5 – just press Alt + J. Well, I use the feature quite often and I would welcome LR like functionality – not having to turn on/off, but just holding down Alt key would be enough …

      1. On October 15, 2016 at 3:10 pm jean jannon replied:

        Hi Petr,
        yes, I know the J-shortcut for clipping (BTW for me both – J and alt-J – are working). But LR offers much more “helpers” like this one, which were missing in ON1 …

  4. On October 14, 2016 at 3:49 am Rene Noel wrote:

    On1 as Plugin is already well known.
    But what should be interesting to me is to make same adjustments in LR and in parallel in Photo Raw. It would be nice to see if Photo Raw can make the challenge! I do not want to use LR, I’m ON1 fan!

  5. On October 14, 2016 at 7:09 am Eilif wrote:

    Same with me. I really look forward to start using the new On1 + comparing the effects with LR. Hopefully we can stop using LR altogether before too long.

  6. On October 14, 2016 at 2:21 pm David Price wrote:

    I suspect that Photo Raw is not quite ready yet, for a comparison video. But, I for one am really hoping that we will get a precise and controllable raw processor, with good sharpening tools, and all of the advantages of a built in effects package.
    I have already paid my money and I am looking forward to downloading Photo Raw. However, I might be the odd one out here, in saying that I’m quite prepared to wait for just a little longer.
    To win over the critics, ON1 needs to make sure that Photo Raw is every bit as good as it needs to be.

    1. On October 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm Hans Habereder replied:

      its always good to run benchmarks on new software that stresses the software. I too am willing to wait, I would rather have an app that has been thoroughly quality controlled. I can wait for the app if it makes it better.

  7. On October 17, 2016 at 3:20 pm Dick Whittington wrote:

    Is it possible that Photo Raw will meet the challenge so I don’t have to bounce back and forth and use both LR and PR. I’m not a pro and would love to streamline my workflow and learning curve?

    1. On October 17, 2016 at 4:52 pm James Lewis replied:

      I’ve been pushing for the same thing. It seems to me that the “Albums” feature in On1 Photo RAW offers many of the advantages for which I use Lightroom. I would love it if the folks down on Sequoia Parkway could find a way to port Lightroom “Collections.” At that point, game over.

  8. On October 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm James Lewis wrote:

    I’m curious to see how it might work in the other direction … importing photos onto your hard disk, opening them in On1 Photo RAW, making adjustments to the keepers, and then importing those, and other those, to Lightroom.

  9. On October 17, 2016 at 4:54 pm Yvan wrote:

    Interesting video. I’m new to On1 and waiting for the Raw version, hoping it will be my master raw processing software (and only one needed).
    My question is about file format when you use On1 as a plug-in. Does LR recognize On1 processes in Raw and vice-versa (or does-it have to go thru .psd or .tiff or .jpg format)?

    1. On October 18, 2016 at 10:09 am Patrick Smith replied:

      Unfortunately, no. If using ON1 as a Lightroom plug-in Lightroom will not use the ON1 RAW non-destructive editing. It will need to save out the file (Psd, jpeg, etc) and cook the pixels.

  10. On October 17, 2016 at 5:34 pm Leanne Cole wrote:

    Looks good, I’m also looking forward to playing around with it.

  11. On October 17, 2016 at 10:57 pm Mauro wrote:

    I couldn’t agree more with some of the users above. I’m currently using LR and then going over to ON1 for some other styling options. When I heard that Photo Raw was coming out and after watching some of the preview videos and reading some of the comment I was genuinely excited for this product. I still am and that is why I per-ordered the software. When I watch videos like this one I appreciate the fact that Raw can work in conjunction with LR…..but do I really want to jump back and forth between the two? No way. I would like to drop LR all together. My hope is to use Raw as a standalone program. Please let’s hope that Raw works as well as LR and Abobe will not see me again. The market potential for a product that competes head on with LR and starts to compete with PS is huge!! I’m sure you guys are aware of that and you don’t need me to tell you. As you’ve noticed I’m not a fan of the subscription model and would use anything else other than Adobe. As it stands now the LR6 that I use is the purchased software (perpetual license) and not CC. And of course Adobe has managed to leave an option or two out of this software as opposed to the CC software. Maybe I’m the only one that thinks this … Don’t know. Anyways that’s the end of my rant and I can’t wait to try out the new program.

  12. On October 18, 2016 at 5:50 am Harry Rose wrote:

    Anything that can compete with LR is greatly welcomed. I have a fairly tweeked out gaming pc and using LR with 5DS-R files is absolute torture. LR grinds down to a crawl. It really hurts. Any help is greatly appreciated.

  13. On October 18, 2016 at 8:15 am free upgrade wrote:

    Matt did a video already. Side by side with Raw and On1 10 if that interests anyone.

  14. On October 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm Al Gordon wrote:

    Just another Fuji fan wondering how well it will process the Fuji X Trans raw files?
    Seems that Canon, Nikon and Sony get all the attention…

  15. On October 23, 2016 at 9:51 am mogle@q.com wrote:

    Trying to get away from Adobe but still use LR5…hope this will mean that on1 will take its place. How soon will new cameras be supported (99II)?

  16. On October 25, 2016 at 6:41 am abdc1@yahoo.com wrote:

    Hi Matt, Really enjoy your info and training videos! Any idea if RAW will allow input from a scanner? Would be nice to have that ability in the editing program.

  17. On October 27, 2016 at 4:30 pm Mark wrote:

    Hi Matt, I assume this will create a huge 500MB psd file ‽

    Will I be able to do the same things you have done here, but starting from ON1 Photo RAW and then open it in LR for final adjustments?

  18. On October 28, 2016 at 6:59 am elliotpaulstern@gmail.com wrote:

    I guess I am not alone after reading all the comments. While I appreciate the fact that you want to be able to live with Lightroom as a plugin, the video you just did here simply makes me wonder why I want to get rid of Lightroom. I understand using the features in On1 raw to style a photo but it looks here that almost everything you are doing is in Lightroom. How about a video that takes me through the same process you are doing in Lightroom but completely dumps LR in favor of a total process in On1. I would think you want everyone to use your raw processor as a full stand alone all in one place all for one price piece of software.

    1. On October 29, 2016 at 4:55 am Matt K replied:

      Hi! I totally appreciate that you’re looking for an ON1 only workflow and I’m sure there will be a ton of videos showing it (I think there already are). But hopefully you can appreciate that there’s still a lot of people like me (who plan on using LR/PS), but want to continue using ON1 Effects for style as a plug in to LR. Just because they’re coming out with a raw editor doesn’t mean I have to loose some of my favorites in Effects. Thx.

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