Versions or Virtual Copies

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Create as many versions (or virtual copies) of a photo as you need. A version lets you keep different Develop and Effects settings, as well as different retouching, crop settings, and meta data settings on different copies of the photos without actually creating a real copy of the file.

17 comments on “Versions or Virtual Copies”

  1. On September 20, 2017 at 9:16 am Petr Krenzelok wrote:

    Cool. I especially like the new slick UI! The thumbnail refresh was a bit laggy, but I expect it being just a prototype. However – you know what question is coming, do you? :-) Along with versions, comes the stacking feature. Is that planned for the on1 RAW in future too? You might want to group photos of various versions, as well as separate photos for the HDR purpose, etc. Great functionality and looking forwards to the final release!

  2. On September 20, 2017 at 9:34 am Adam Rubinstein wrote:

    So, here’s a couple of quick but not so obvious questions; does one have to create a “version” from the base, unedited image prior to making any edits? Does clicking on “version” at any time create a new “version” at that edited state or one of the original image?

    Again, I’ll never miss a moment to plug for the need for a true, soft proofing, non-destructive print engine.

  3. On September 20, 2017 at 1:41 pm DAVID AINBENDER wrote:

    Adam – Aperture’s version feature let you do both. You could select in the pop up menu when you right click an image, either New Version (which would make a new version of the image with all the edits that have been applied to that source image), or New Version From Master (would would make a new version directly from the original, so-called “Master,” unedited virgin version of the image, even if the source image you’re right clicking has edits in it – those edits would not be in the new version made by selecting New Version From Master).

    It doesn’t seem from this sneak peak video that On1’s version feature will work that way. That would be a bummer. I REALLY HOPE On1’s version feature will work like as in Aperture, i.e., you can either make a new version of the image selected that has its edits, or, can make a new version of the image selected without its edits that gets made from the selected image’s original unedited RAW (or other format) image. On1 — PLEASE DO IT THIS WAY!! Versions is a feature I’ve been craving and long waiting for in On1 Raw 2017, so now that it is finally coming, I hope it comes the better, “right” way I’ve described here.

    1. On September 20, 2017 at 9:27 pm Jay Herman replied:

      Ii agree–Aperature’s version functionality is great, and I would love to see ON1’s work just like it.

      1. On September 20, 2017 at 9:28 pm Jay Herman replied:

        Make that “Aperture’s…”

    2. On September 20, 2017 at 10:12 pm Petr Krenzelok replied:

      While the option you describe might be handy, I can see an easy work around. Just make a version, copy original image settings/modifications, paste onto the new image. Simply – what you request is not a show-stopper.

      1. On September 21, 2017 at 3:47 pm DAVID AINBENDER replied:

        Yes, and you can remove all edits and get back to virgin unedited state when you make the version by clicking the reset button. But still, that’s a workaround extra step.

  4. On September 21, 2017 at 4:33 am David Price wrote:

    I am looking forward to versions, and I don’t really mind the fact that the new copy might contain all of the previous edits. Because, in Raw 2017, it is already easy enough to bin all of the previous adjustments. Or, maybe to keep them, and to add on a new layer of further adjustments.

    Petr is spot on, being able to stack versions for a HDR or a Pano would be rather good.

    Adam is also right about ‘soft proofing’ for printing. Maybe we will see it in 2019? Hopefully, we might see it in 2018.

    I think that, this year, Raw 2017 has developed into a powerful and reliable photo editor. The promised upgrades, should take it up to a higher level. However, I recognise that a team of skilled individuals needs to be employed, to continually improve the code, and that sort of intensive development costs money. (i.e. Nothing in this World is free, as everyone needs to be able to make a decent living).

    Thanks to the subscription free business model, I own my copy of Photo Raw 2017.6. If I were to decide to not pay for the upgrade, I would still own my copy of Photo Raw 2017.6 and I would be able to continue to use it.
    I am grateful for the fact that ON1 did not follow Adobe. Because, with Adobe’s subscription model, you only ever rent the code. i.e. if you stop paying, they are quick to disable the software that you have already paid for.

    Personally, I think that ON1’s current business model is far more honest than a subscription model. So, I personaly was happy to pay for another twelve months of ON1 Plus. Yes, I am looking forward to another exciting year.

  5. On September 21, 2017 at 3:45 pm DAVID AINBENDER wrote:

    A big “boo!” on subscription model. I WILL NOT SUBSCRIBE!!! HATE subscription software. Please do not make subscription model the only sale option.

  6. On September 23, 2017 at 7:31 am Don L wrote:

    Can not wait… Is there a way to generate a file from the new version along with sidecar… and if you do not want the new file but are still working on the new versions… is there a way to backup your work?

  7. On September 24, 2017 at 1:44 pm joe forzano wrote:

    Nice! Virtual copies are something I use in LR all the time, so this is a great feature addition.

    Can you please add the ability to rename files in a folder? Please?

  8. On October 2, 2017 at 5:15 pm Robert Rockefeller wrote:

    While versions is an important feature, it is hardly a “new technology.” As others have said, I sure hope there is stacking coming too, otherwise it gets to be a pain managing multiple versions.

  9. On October 6, 2017 at 10:12 am Mark Allen wrote:

    In the past I have been duplicating my raw file and adding a v1, v2, etc., to the file name. It was a fiddly process on my Mac, annoying more than time consuming.

    Clearly my old approach meant each version was a real raw file, rather than a virtual one. As such I could sync settings from one to another, reset settings and so on.

    I assume this versions approach will offer the same approach with virtual copies of the raw file – thus saving (for me Fuji XT1) 33MB per raw file.

    I look forward to syncing the settings from one of my v1 raws, to the new version created by ON1. I see no reason why it would not work. Then I’ll be able to delete all my multiple raws, with virtual versions, if I really felt the need!

    This is a most welcome addition to Photo RAW, and one we have been asking for – for ages. It is most gratifying that ON1 have carefully selected the most important requests and included them in 2018 edition. Well done!

  10. On October 7, 2017 at 8:21 am Michael Anderson wrote:

    Now if we can get the import feature that provides the speed and flexibility of Photo Mechanic to import, rename, and create folders and subfolders as needed.

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